Comments on: Personal Zeitgeist http://blog.leekelleher.com/2008/02/14/personal-zeitgeist/ Just another WordPress.com weblog Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:55:21 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU hourly 1 By: Lee Kelleher http://blog.leekelleher.com/2008/02/14/personal-zeitgeist/#comment-18 Lee Kelleher Sat, 01 Mar 2008 19:35:03 +0000 http://leekelleher.wordpress.com/?p=8#comment-18 Hi Ryan, Firstly, thank you for taking the time to comment on this. I've used SimplePie on several projects, it's served me well... so I'm quite a fan! I do agree with the openness of the code... why shouldn't anyone be able to view it?! I guess my original reaction was to prevent outsiders from viewing any code on my web-server. We will be using SimplePie for our new project Pez, which will use the .inc extension - makes upgrades "simpler". Keep up the great work! Hi Ryan,

Firstly, thank you for taking the time to comment on this. I’ve used SimplePie on several projects, it’s served me well… so I’m quite a fan!

I do agree with the openness of the code… why shouldn’t anyone be able to view it?!
I guess my original reaction was to prevent outsiders from viewing any code on my web-server.

We will be using SimplePie for our new project Pez, which will use the .inc extension - makes upgrades “simpler”.

Keep up the great work!

]]> By: Ryan Parman http://blog.leekelleher.com/2008/02/14/personal-zeitgeist/#comment-17 Ryan Parman Sat, 01 Mar 2008 19:06:10 +0000 http://leekelleher.wordpress.com/?p=8#comment-17 To talk briefly about the .inc thing, the very first day I sat down to write the first version of SimplePie, I chose to use .inc for three reasons. 1) SimplePie wasn't originally intended to ever be a standalone product. It was supposed to be a simplified wrapper for MagpieRSS (e.g. Simple API for MagPie) so that I could more easily integrate RSS feeds into a larger project that I was working on. In the end, the larger project was crap so I never released it, and SimplePie turned out to be a runaway hit. Who knew? 2) The file is an include, and not something that people should have to edit or otherwise mess with. 3) .inc (in this context) is essentially PHP code that people can openly read even on the internet. At the time, it seemed like it would be a good idea for an open source project to have source that was... open. Now I realize it really doesn't matter, but I can't say I have any plans to change it. So that's why we use .inc instead of something else. :) To talk briefly about the .inc thing, the very first day I sat down to write the first version of SimplePie, I chose to use .inc for three reasons.

1) SimplePie wasn’t originally intended to ever be a standalone product. It was supposed to be a simplified wrapper for MagpieRSS (e.g. Simple API for MagPie) so that I could more easily integrate RSS feeds into a larger project that I was working on. In the end, the larger project was crap so I never released it, and SimplePie turned out to be a runaway hit. Who knew?

2) The file is an include, and not something that people should have to edit or otherwise mess with.

3) .inc (in this context) is essentially PHP code that people can openly read even on the internet. At the time, it seemed like it would be a good idea for an open source project to have source that was… open. Now I realize it really doesn’t matter, but I can’t say I have any plans to change it.

So that’s why we use .inc instead of something else. :)

]]> By: Ben Taylor http://blog.leekelleher.com/2008/02/14/personal-zeitgeist/#comment-14 Ben Taylor Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:40:23 +0000 http://leekelleher.wordpress.com/?p=8#comment-14 HA! God, I'm trying to remember the last time I ate Pez. It's been years. We should definitely poke this thing a few times and upload it to Google Code. Instead of joining MySpace to create a profile page, you can install this on your own domain. It updates itself! I have the next two days off from work, so I'll be cleaning up the theme and making a few new ones once I get out of class. Some of us didn't have kids. HA! God, I’m trying to remember the last time I ate Pez. It’s been years.

We should definitely poke this thing a few times and upload it to Google Code. Instead of joining MySpace to create a profile page, you can install this on your own domain. It updates itself!

I have the next two days off from work, so I’ll be cleaning up the theme and making a few new ones once I get out of class. Some of us didn’t have kids.

]]> By: Lee Kelleher http://blog.leekelleher.com/2008/02/14/personal-zeitgeist/#comment-12 Lee Kelleher Sat, 16 Feb 2008 00:40:25 +0000 http://leekelleher.wordpress.com/?p=8#comment-12 Ben, you should keep an eye on the DiSo Project. http://code.google.com/p/diso/ It uses WordPress as the basis of a decentralised distributed social network - wow, try saying that with a mouthful of Pez! Ben, you should keep an eye on the DiSo Project. http://code.google.com/p/diso/

It uses WordPress as the basis of a decentralised distributed social network - wow, try saying that with a mouthful of Pez!

]]> By: Ben Taylor http://blog.leekelleher.com/2008/02/14/personal-zeitgeist/#comment-9 Ben Taylor Fri, 15 Feb 2008 18:28:19 +0000 http://leekelleher.wordpress.com/?p=8#comment-9 Yes! I think it's pretty neat. The Zeitgeist is similar to a, "social networking," idea I hatched almost three years ago (A profile page that lists the basics about you, and imports your blog, pics, and anything else via RSS). Give this thing the ability to add friends/send messages, and it would be close to my original vision. I plan on making several themes for this thing. I think it's worth the time. I'll probably start doing that once I start work on those Blogger themes I need to clean up. Hey, now I know what I can do this weekend. Also, this thing needs digg integration! Yes! I think it’s pretty neat. The Zeitgeist is similar to a, “social networking,” idea I hatched almost three years ago (A profile page that lists the basics about you, and imports your blog, pics, and anything else via RSS). Give this thing the ability to add friends/send messages, and it would be close to my original vision.

I plan on making several themes for this thing. I think it’s worth the time. I’ll probably start doing that once I start work on those Blogger themes I need to clean up. Hey, now I know what I can do this weekend.

Also, this thing needs digg integration!

]]> By: Lee Kelleher http://blog.leekelleher.com/2008/02/14/personal-zeitgeist/#comment-8 Lee Kelleher Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:32:06 +0000 http://leekelleher.wordpress.com/?p=8#comment-8 Hey Ben, It's so cool that you've got a Zeitgeist set-up too! I had problems with the Google Reader feeds, like you I had to remove it. The HTML isn't standardised anyway; I wouldn't worry about messing anything up. I found a few other little bugs in there, I'll share the code with you once I've hacked around a bit more... who knows we could open-source it on Google Code?! Hey Ben, It’s so cool that you’ve got a Zeitgeist set-up too!

I had problems with the Google Reader feeds, like you I had to remove it.

The HTML isn’t standardised anyway; I wouldn’t worry about messing anything up.

I found a few other little bugs in there, I’ll share the code with you once I’ve hacked around a bit more… who knows we could open-source it on Google Code?!

]]> By: Ben Taylor http://blog.leekelleher.com/2008/02/14/personal-zeitgeist/#comment-7 Ben Taylor Fri, 15 Feb 2008 06:21:18 +0000 http://leekelleher.wordpress.com/?p=8#comment-7 Neat. I saw your earlier post, so I set up a Zeitgeist the other day (http://www.bogdind.com/about). I'm not as advanced as you, so mine won't do all the fancy lad things you're going to make yours do. I do think I'm running into a bit of an error. Bug? Maybe not. It won't display my shared or starred articles from Google Reader. I said to heck with it and just removed. On my day off, I'm going to hack at the theme, and probably unstandardize it. Neat. I saw your earlier post, so I set up a Zeitgeist the other day (http://www.bogdind.com/about). I’m not as advanced as you, so mine won’t do all the fancy lad things you’re going to make yours do. I do think I’m running into a bit of an error. Bug? Maybe not. It won’t display my shared or starred articles from Google Reader. I said to heck with it and just removed.

On my day off, I’m going to hack at the theme, and probably unstandardize it.

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